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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RYZ wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I don't see here that when the Moshol itself is<BR>said that it is because
the meaning was not revealed to him</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree. It may have been revealed to him,
but it was made clear to the novi that this was not for publication but for him
only.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RYZ wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>II would tend to think that the Novie understands what<BR>is meant to him
to relate Moshol Pisron or both</DIV>
<DIV>CM responds:</DIV>
<DIV>I agree, except that "understands" may be a little weak. I think that this
is part and parcel of the nevuoh as to what is for publication. (I really think
we essentially agree here just I am using slightly more
emphatic terminology).</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RYZ wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Koveish Nvuosoi is when he<BR>says nothing (or not saying the Pisron or
both when that was the intention<BR>of HKB"H).<BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I disagree. Koveish nevuoso is more encompassing.
It includes leaving out any part of the nevuoh intended for
publication.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RYZ wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Further according to your reasoning a Novie that was Kovesh a Nvuoh witout
a<BR>Pisron would not be Over. </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No. A novi that is kovesh any part of his nevuoh is
over. If the nevuoh was just the moshol and he was kovesh that, he would be
over. What gave you the impression that I wrote any different?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RYZ wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Also all nvous that were given witout Pisron<BR>would have to be from such
a class, and they could have not been said</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:<BR>I am not clear on exactly what you
mean here. Certainly a nevuoh, could be either for publication or not even
without a pisron, why should they not have been said? Apparently there is value
in the moshol alone even if you and I (and the novi) do not get it. Perhaps at
some time the meaning will eventually become clear?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kol Tuv</FONT></DIV>
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