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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>RDR wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>So the nevuah can't be the mareh alone; it has to include the <BR>pitaron,
and the prophet does not invariably understand it correctly.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I do not agree with these assertions you
make.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why not; why; absolutely not.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>So the nevuah can't be the mareh alone; <STRONG>why not?</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>it has to include the pitaron, <STRONG>why?</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>and the prophet does not invariably understand it correctly.
<STRONG>abolutely not.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV>RDR writes: (CM response in <STRONG>bold</STRONG>)</DIV>
<DIV>These arguments fail to distinguish between a nevuah and its pitaron;
<STRONG>(they are both a part of the total nevuoh)</STRONG><BR>that the nevuah
is correct need not imply that the navi understands it
correctly. <STRONG>(the novi can not misunderstand the
nevuoh!)</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> A navi should know when he has received the pitaron and when he
hasn't. <STRONG>(correct, he always does.)</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV>RDR wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>We can test only some nevuot - - how would Yeshayahu's <BR>contemporaries
have tested nevuot about the Messianic era?<BR></DIV>
<DIV>CM responds:</DIV>
<DIV>I think you misunderstand RYZ's point. If mistake is admissible in nevuoh,
then you could NEVER punish a novi sheker, so why would the Torah provide such a
punishment. But in the instance of your query, perhaps not every nevuoh (from a
novi muchzok) must be subject to test and punishable.</DIV>
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<DIV>RDR wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>Rambam rules (Mamrim 2:1) that Sanhedrin may overrule a <BR>previous
Sanhedrin's deductions from the Torah. Similarly the <BR>authenticity of
prophecy can be distinguished from the authenticity of <BR>its
interpretation.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>CM responds:</DIV>
<DIV>You are mixing apples and oranges. One does not follow from the
other.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Kol Tuv</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Chaim Manaster</DIV>
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