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this is irrelavant to the topic. The only people who would want to delay maariv
on the second night of Shavuos are the people who are worried about Temimos for
the second night of Shavuos. And those people would have been counting twice
m'safek for the whole seven weeks. And AFAIK there aren't any such
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size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">true for temimos, but according to the
Natziv the real reason for delaying maariv on Shavuot is because the verse
states beEtzem hayom hazeh which negates tosefet yom tov for Shavuot and thus
there would be no difference between the two days in the
Diaspora.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
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size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">On motzei Shabbat I was thinking that when
in a year when shavuos comes out on motzei shabbos with the Yaknahaz, etc., we
never see a campaign to daven arvit earlier then zeit hakochavim in order to
rush to Kiddush exactly at zeit for those people who have trouble eating so
late. Of course if you want to eat hot fleishigs that nite, it may take a
while to clean the dishes from Shabbat and heat up the food, but if you settle
for milchigs, you can do well right at zeit with Kiddush. Now davening ma'arive
earlier on shabbos is found in the same gemorrah in brachot where it says that
rav davened shabbos ma'ariv earlier on Friday, so on the next page discussing
this, it says the same can be done on Saturday for that nite's arvit (berachot
27b) and this is mandated by rambam tefilah 3:7 SA, OH, 293:3. although the mb
there says it should not be done because of a cheshash of melacha, still I'm
sure that with all the za'ar that has been going around the weeks before
shavu'ot, and the fact that most melachot are still assur because of yom tov,
and one can time an earlier ma'ariv perhaps so that there would be not chashash
for that, and then one can argue that the rishonim like the rambam was not
choshesh for what the acharonim feared, so that we should return to the minhag
of the simple gemorrah and rishonim, and let the magen avraham and mb reflect
minhag lita only.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
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size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">I hope you will excuse some of the irony
here but there some of my post-shavuot reflections – especially after seeing
150-200 elderly, middle aged, young men, and children have stayed up all nite
learning in all types of frameworks including avot ubanim, and then to daven
vatikin. In fact the regular 7:30 minyan (we are makpid on magen avraham
kriyat shma) had no cohen the next morning.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
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size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">A healthy summer to you
all.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
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