<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Liron Kopinsky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:liron.kopinsky@gmail.com">liron.kopinsky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Does anyone have any Mekoros as 2 rain being a possible Siman Klala on birchas Hachama as it says re rain in the sukka??</blockquote>
</div><div><br>Liron:<br>It is my understanding that there are Rishonim who hold that you can say the bracha for Birchat Hachama without even seeing the sun. While we don't pasken like that today, it seems to me that there can't be a mesorah for it being a siman klalah if that psak could exist. <br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>Do you have any sources for this? I haven't learned the sugya at all, but it seems a bit crazy to me. Why should this be any different from, say, kiddush levana? (And yes, I could present sevaros to be mechalek, but I would like to see some sources, if you can get hold of them.<br>
<br>KT,<br>Michael<br>