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size=2>From: Micha Berger <micha@aishdas.org><BR>>> The Ramchal
gives a similar<BR>explanation for the Sitra Achara's rebellion against HQBH --
it was an<BR>error in facts. (His intent was to make bad and good equally
compelling<BR>choices for people, and then got to thinking that this meant that
good<BR>and bad were equal, and thus Hashem's authority and his were as
well.)<<<BR><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Where does Ramchal say this? I thought that the idea of a Satan who
rebels against G-d and sets himself as an equal and a rival was a Christian idea
(cf. Milton's *Paradise Lost*). I thought we believed that a malach can
NOT rebel and that the Satan is a malach who performs the tafkid that Hashem
sets for him, just like any other malach. It's just that his tafkid
is 1. to tempt us to sin -- hu yetzer hara 2. to prosecute us when we do
sin -- he is the kategor and 3-4. to punish us when we sin and also to take our
lives -- he is the avenger and he is the Malach Hamaves.</DIV>
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<DIV>Christians read the Book of Job as being a kind of wager or contest between
two equals or near-equals, G-d and Satan, respectively the G-d of Good and
the Leader of Evil who rebelled against G-d and is responsible for all evil
in the world. In their worldview evil does not come from Hashem but from
the independent, rebellious Satan.</DIV>
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<DIV>In contrast, we read Sefer Iyov as a dialogue between Hashem and one of His
minions, in which the Kategor says that Iyov isn't really that big a tzaddik
because he's never been tested, and Hashem instructs the Satan to test Iyov --
giving him precise instructions on how far he can go. (The Satan and the
Kategor being one and the same of course.) Everything that is evil in the
world -- all suffering -- comes from Hashem and only /appears/ evil to us
because we lack the Divine perspective.</DIV>
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<DIV>When we say that the yetzer hara "wants" to trap us we speak beloshon bnai
Adam. His JOB is to tempt us and in that sense he "wants" to do his
job. But at a deeper level, at the level of emes, he truly wants us to
RESIST his blandishments and do Retzon Hashem.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><BR></FONT><B><FONT color=#0000ff>--Toby
Katz<BR>==========<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
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