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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>From: Micha Berger <micha@aishdas.org><BR>>>One could ask
about the justice of punishing subsequent generations<BR>-- or reward them, but
asking about that is looking a gift horse in<BR>the mouth. Nu, so we talk about
the lingering effects of that sin on<BR>the next generations. The child learns
behaviors from the parents. But<BR>here it seems to run counter to the pasuq
"notzeir chesed la'alafim"<BR>-- nu, zechus avos fits. But the eigel, "poqeid
avon avos al banim,<BR>ve'al benei banim, al sheleishim ve'al ribei'im..." The
contrast of<BR>thousands of generations vs four being pointed out as a statement
of<BR>midas haRachamim. Well, we're well past ribei'im on the eigel.
Ideas?<<<BR><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>As long as we continue to sin (even a little bit) in a way that is similar
to cheit ha'egel, that cheit has not been fully atoned for and we
still have to bear onesh for that cheit. Cheit ha'egel would be
worshipping anyone or anything other than Hashem or in addition to Hashem.
Sadly our own generation is guilty of having several false gods, and some of the
frummest people who wear beards and gartels are sometimes guilty vehamevin
yavin. In general Hashem "visits the sins of the fathers on their
children" only when the children continue in the misdeeds of the fathers.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
PTSIZE="10"><BR><B>--Toby Katz<BR>==========<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
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