<br><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Verdana">(As before, forgive me (a)
for being way behind in Avodah-digest reading; and (b) if someone has mentioned
this already....)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">In Avodah Digest V26#7, RSP wrote:</font>
<br><tt><font size=2>> ...To this I received the following response
and which was also posted in<br>
areivim:<br>
>> I lived in Elizabeth, NJ from 1968 to 1974. Rav Teitz regularly
came on<br>
Sunday mornings to daven in the Bais Yitzchok shul on Bellevue Street.
(For<br>
those who do not know much about Elizabeth, Rav P. M Teitz, ZT"L,
was THE<br>
rov of the city. He was the rov of the 4 Orthodox shuls in Elizabeth. See<br>
</font></tt><a href=http://tinyurl.com/63gryd><tt><font size=2>http://tinyurl.com/63gryd
for more about Rav Teitz and his amazing<br>
accomplishments in building Orthodoxy in Elizabeth, NJ.)<br>
>> One Sunday morning an obviously Sefardi fellow whom I had never
seen before<br>
was davening for the Amud. After a moment or two Rav Teitz stopped him
and<br>
said, "You can pronounce any word the way you want except for HaShem's
name.<br>
You cannot say A--nai (that is, pronouncing a kamatz as if it were a pasach<br>
as some Sefardim do.). You must say A--noi (pronouncing the kamatz with
an<br>
Ashkenaz pronunciation.) Your pronunciation is Chol for us and we cannot<br>
answer Amen.... <<<br>
[snip]</font></tt></a>
<br><tt><font size=2>> Rav teitz's ruling seems to be a da'at yachid
only applicable to Elizabeth<br>
(then?) and it would appear that what rav teitz did appears to be applicable<br>
ONLY to his own town, just as he had the authority to prohibit meat that
did<br>
not his have approval to be sold there. Nonetheless, I am not so
sure other<br>
posekim would hold of his pesak. <</font></tt>
<br><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Verdana">I would imagine that Rav
Teitz zichrono livrachah (hereafter RPMT) was correcting the SHaTZ solely
on behalf of the q'hilah and for the sake of the tzibbur that the SHaTZ
was supposedly representing. AFAIK, minhag hamaqom (w/ the maqom
being the community which was under the guidance of RPMT and currently
is under the aegis of listmember REMT) is that sheim Adnus must be pronounced
as indicated above (and not only during t'filah but also during q'riyas
haTorah, e.g. 1-18:3) in order to distinguish it as indicated above (likewise,
when the word is chol, e.g. 1-19:2, it must be pronounced with a patach
rather than a qamatz according to the pronunciation as indicated above).</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Verdana">In </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif">V26#10</font><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Verdana">,
RJFS wrote:</font>
<br><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Verdana">> </font><tt><font size=2>It
is regrettable that R' Pinxas Teitz is no longer alive to defend<br>
himself; perhaps one of his living descendants will speak for him,<br>
because this psaq, assuming it is correctly reported, does not appear<br>
to be well thought-out.</font></tt><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Verdana">...</font><tt><font size=2>And
yet, R' Pinxas Teitx, if this story is correctly<br>
reported, publicly embarrassed someone rather than rely on this<br>
normative halakha.</font></tt><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Verdana">
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><</font>
<br><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Verdana">WADR, a violation of minhag
hamaqom isn't a situation based on logic, and I would not presume to question
the need to stop a SHaTZ ex post facto and ensure that he properly represented
the tzibbur for the remainder of his shlichus.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Verdana">A guten Shabbes and all the
best from</font>
<br><font size=4 color=blue face="Monotype Corsiva">Michael Poppers</font><font size=4 color=blue face="Verdana">
* </font><font size=4 color=blue face="EngraversGothic BT">Elizabeth, NJ,
USA</font>