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<DIV>R. Arie Folger wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>RZS wrote:<BR>> IIRC R Bleich wrote an article many years ago arguing that there is no<BR>> precedent for the claim that "venishmartem" applies to actions that pose<BR>> no immediate danger, but only increase the probability of developing a<BR>> disease at some time in the future. ?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thus, whereas the <BR>first cigarette would not be assur on account of a direct piqua'h nefesh.. </DIV>
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<DIV>HB: What exactly constitutes an immediate danger, or a direct pikuach nefesh? Is it 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, 2 years, etc.? What about having unprotected relations (where one might CV die 7-10 years later from AIDS)? If someone is marrying a non-betulah, do either or both of the parties have to get checked for diseases before marriage?</DIV>
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<DIV>R. Ari discussed living in a polluted city. What about more immediate sakanas like crime or terrorism? Is one allowed to live in Sderot (missiles), settlements, or even Crown Heights, NY, if crime levels reach above a certain point? What about driving on Israeli Roads where there are numerous fatalities (more I believe than from terrorist actions). Other potentially (immediate) dangerous activities include bungie jumping, motorcycle riding, etc.</DIV>
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<DIV>Where and how do we assign percentages for sakana (R. Ari on living in a pollouted city), and subsequently act on them? Is a 50 percent sakana the cutoff rate? And 50 percent of what? Dying in a day, a week or in 20 years? </DIV>
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<DIV>Finally, Chabad sent Shluchim back to Mumbai after what happened there. Is a heter required to be there (which also would put others like a Shaliachs family and or Shabbas guests in Sakana)? What would have to happen (CV) so that a makom would eventually obtain a chazaka of a makom sakana; which I would assume would require immediate action to thereby leave. HB</DIV>
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