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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rbtzn Toby<b><i><span style='font-weight:
bold;font-style:italic'> </span></i></b>said,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>They believed Yosef was a major sinner
(mored bemalchus -- if Yakov is a melech -- plotting to usurp his father's and
brothers' place -- re his dream of his father and brothers bowing to him -- OR
-- eating ever min hachai -- OR -- other?). To smile at a sinner and
pretend everything's fine is not darkei sholom but hypocrisy. (Maybe we
should learn from the brothers that chanifa to non-O rabbis is not the right
thing to do.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>This is</span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> probably correct.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>However, accordingly it means that Y and
his bros had discussed and debated this and weighed the options, otherwise it
is just the musings of a group of well meaning but misdirected individuals who
have not consulted but only assume the position of the one they are accusing
and indicting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>They were making decisions of such weight
defending YaAkov when Y haad nt even been consulted or informed?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Even if this is true, who was the
impartial third party to assist them in their deliberations and assessments?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can a group of people be the prosecutors,
Judge and jury?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Was YaAkov part of those deliberations?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Was YaAkov concerned about Yosef’s
takeover or was he grooming him for the job?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>BTW I do not know why you restrict the
issues of Chunfa to nonO rabbis. It applies to anyone who refuses to repent and
mollify those s/he has wronged. See R Yona 170 something I think. I presume
that BALaMakom is also included but we are to assume the sinner has repented.
In fact I think we have more severe problems than nonO rabbis in our own O
congregations. Am I permitted to greet someone who has insulted a fellow J and
has refused to gain the victim’s forgiveness? Am I permitted to attend a
testimonial dinner to honour someone who has not dealt honestly with business
associates or rivals? nonOs are soft targets [and I mean it both ways]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Meir Rabi</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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