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size=2>From: Yitzhak Grossman <A
href="mailto:celejar@gmail.com">celejar@gmail.com</A><BR><BR><BR>>> You
*still* have given no compelling reason for this 'clarity'; you<BR>just
keep declaring it to be so, without giving any logical basis for<BR>your
view. <<</FONT></DIV>
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size=2>I guess "compelling" is in the eye of the beholder. I have
explained my position in ever greater detail, looking closely at the relevant
pesukim, Rashi, Ramban and common sense, and at this point there is nothing left
for either of us to say without simply repeating ourselves. Anyone who
doubts that I have made a strong case for the proposition that Dinah was
kidnapped and raped need only re-read everything I've written on the subject
over the last few days. In a way it's a foolish exercise since the pasuk
itself says she was raped -- "vaye'anaha" -- and all other readings are
forced and must be defended. It isn't (or shouldn't be) the pshat that
needs defending. The one who wants to read Chumash in a less-than-obvious
way is the one who needs to make a compelling case -- and that you have not
done. <BR></DIV></FONT>
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