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size=2>From: "Meir Rabi" <A
href="mailto:meirabi@optusnet.com.au">meirabi@optusnet.com.au</A><BR><BR>>>Aside
from going to his Kever with a Minyan, the obvious answer, there is
an<BR>implied understanding that even many generations later some type
of<BR>reconciliation can be achieved. Does this mean that the old enmities
were<BR>still being maintained? All the way down to the 10
Martyrs?<<<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>>>>>><BR>By the time of
the asarah harugei malchus the tribes that descended from Yosef were long since
gone, most of them lost among the nations with the Aseres Hashevatim and the
rest assimilated into Yehudah, so there wouldn't have been any
Yosef-descendants around still harboring anger against the descendants of
the other brothers.</FONT></DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"
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<DIV>The suggestion is not that there might be ancient enmities
still existing between the brothers, but that in Heaven there might still
be a kitrug against them for the wrong committed by their ancestors,
the sons of Yakov. If some bit of the original jealousy and sinas
chinam that led to mechiras Yosef still adhered to the actions of their
descendants, then the original sin of the brothers would not be completely
atoned for, even after centuries. </DIV>
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<DIV>Then of course you get into the mystery of misas tzaddik mechaperes -- how
does that work? Why should the righteous die for the sins of the
guilty? But that's another thread.<BR></DIV></FONT></DIV>
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