<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; ">"One of the Roshei Yeshiva eloquently spoke about the years that <br>Yaakov spent studying in the yeshiva of Shem V'Ever. (As we all know, <br>these years are not mentioned openly in the Chumash.) However, he <br>failed to make any mention that the Torah tells us in considerable <br>detail how Yaakov worked diligently for Lavan for 20 years. It would <br>seem to me that years of work in order to support a family are <br>considered of some importance, given that the Torah mentions them."</span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><br></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; "><b>It would seem that was exactly why he spoke about the years that Yaakov</b></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; "><b>spent studying in the Shem V'Ever Yeshiva -- because it is NOT in the Torah.</b></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; "><b>Therefore, we need to hear about it. We already know about the details of Yaakov</b></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; "><b>working for Lavan, therefore he didn't have to expand on that.</b></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">"I davened with the Maariv minyan at which the Rosh Yeshiva davened. <br>(This Shtiebel has a practice of making several minyanim for Maariv <br>on Motzoei Shabbos.) When it came to Shemoneh Esrei, it took the Rosh <br>Yeshiva a long time to daven. Indeed, the Rov of the shul as well as <br>all of the others who davened with this minyan finished well before <br>the Rosh Yeshiva and therefore had to wait a good few minutes for the <br>Rosh Yeshiva to finish. In light of the piece below, I can only <br>wonder if what he did was appropriate.:</span></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b>It might very well be when the R"Y davens privately, his shemoneh esrei</b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b>would take twice as long as it did last Shabbos. Secondly, the man is </b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b>not looking around while davening and not being too conscious of his </b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b>surroundings, it seems unfair to attribute inappropriateness to him. Dan </b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b>l'chaf z'chus also refers to a Rosh Yeshiva. </b></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; ">ri</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b>P.S. I must say that I was embarrassed to see a R"Y criticized publicly.</b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="-webkit-monospace"><br></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: -webkit-monospace; "> </span></div></body></html>