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On November 16, 2008<BR>R "kennethgmiller@juno.com" <kennethgmiller@juno.com><BR>Wrote: Subject: Re: [Avodah] pikuach nefesh<BR><BR>>I would like to remind the chevra that according to my understanding, RSZA, Rav >Moshe Heinemann, and others, hold that speaking into a telephone on Shabbos is >"only" a d'rabanan, because the electricity's main function is something other >than heat or light. According to this shita, such actions are mutar on Shabbos >even for needs which are less than a full-blown Pikuach Nefesh, and certainly so >on Yom Tov.<BR> <BR>and<BR>On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:38:04 -0500<BR>R' Zev Sero <zev@sero.name><BR>Wrote: <BR>Subject: Re: [Avodah] pikuach nefesh<BR><BR> <BR>>Rich, Joel wrote:<BR><BR>>> Actually I was thinking about karov lmalchut as a starting point.<BR><BR>>Where in hilchot shabbat/yomtov do we find any kind of heter for karov<BR>>lemalchut? ... <BR>>But the heter of a double-derabbanan for tzorchei tzibbur is directly<BR>>in hilchot shabbat/yomtov, so that seems like a straightforward place<BR>>to look for a heter in this case. If he had a telephone from Mechon<BR>>Tzomet we wouldn't even be talking about this; but I assume he doesn't.<BR> <BR>I would appreciate if I could be given citations to the references to: RSZA, Rav Moshe Heinemann, or others regarding electricity on Shabbas and Yom Tov. <BR> <BR>KT<BR>Eliyahu<BR> <BR> <BR><BR> <BR><BR></body>
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