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<DIV>redirected from Areivim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">>>Wholesale Chametz selling
to the non-Jew is completely different than the<BR>HM, in an elementary
way. If the gentile would follow through on the<BR>purchase from Osem and
Elite, buying out their stock, they would be<BR>overjoyed. If the Arab
followed through on the purchase of millions of<BR>dunams of EY, there would
be war.<<</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV> WHY HETER MECHIRA IS OK<BR><BR>1) there's a machloket (Rambam
vs. the Geonim) if the yovel<BR> is included in the first shmitta or
not <BR><BR>2) there's a machloket between Rashi and the Rambam on the date
<BR>of the Churban from which date we count the shmitta <BR><BR>So for
starters there's even a safek if the shmitta today is actually <BR>the correct
date. <BR><BR>3) Rav Pessach Zvi Frank in the HAR ZVI YD 123 ruled that there is
no problem of <BR>the prohibition of *lo techanem* [selling land in Israel to
gentiles] <BR>especially if they are Muslims. [According to the Kesef Mishneh
regarding <BR>living in Israel, today we *do* accept ger toshav]. <BR><BR>4)
DAAT YACHID: first of all it's *not* a "daat yachid" [single solitary
<BR>opinion] that shmitta today is not even d'rabbanan but a "midat chasidut".
<BR>Those that rule this way include the RAZAH (the Baal HaMaor !), the Baal
<BR>HaIttur [half of Yoreh Deah is based on his piskei halacha. Check the
<BR>Beer Heitev and the BACH for sources], the Raavad in his Hassagot on the
<BR>RIF in Gittin; the Meiri, the SMA (Meirat Einayim), and the Perisha.
<BR>[The RAN calls them [above] "yesh chachamim"; the Rema talks about "yesh
<BR>omrim"]. And one of those that considered shmitta today as not even
<BR>d'rabban was the BEHAG (R. Shimon Kayara, 8th Cent. CE) who was *only*
<BR>one of the early Geonim. <BR><BR>The only reason why Shmitta today is
considered D'Rabbanan is a Ta'ut Sofer<BR>in ONE (out of 4 manuscripts of a
Rambam with a word in the wrong order)<BR><BR>5) KINYAN L'NOCHRI: [having the
gentile take ownership of the property]: <BR>The Sefer haTeruma permits and thus
the kedusha of the land is removed. <BR>[See the sugya in Gittin 47 where in
Mitzvot d'rabbanan there *is* kinyan <BR>l'nochri [Israel being in the
category of Syria]. The Sefer Hilchot Eretz <BR>Yisrael (attributed to the Baal
haTurim) specifically permits "kinyan l'nochri <BR>l'hafkia". <BR><BR>6) LAND
REGISTRY [tabu]: look at what the Chazon Ish writes in Hilchot <BR>Maasrot
(Siman 10) ! [selling land to gentiles in Israel is *tofes* <BR>[valid] even if
the transaction was NOT registered in the land's registry] <BR>And for the past
21years, the heter mechira of the rabbanut does include <BR>an indication
"He'arat azhara" in the Land Registry.
<BR>==========================================================<BR>Since many
Acharonim hold that corporations have a special halachic<BR>status, [</DIV><PRE>A corporate entity (vs. single person) even if partly
owned
by Jews may have a different law (see: Shaagat Aryeh 89-90;
Ha'Elef
Lecha Shlomo 238)] </PRE>
<DIV>my suggestion would be that instead of the Rabbanut selling to<BR>an Arab
(one person), they sell or LEASE the agricultural land to a foreign owned
corporation.<BR>The sale would be bona fide, legally valid, and avoid the
problem of LO TECHANEM. [They would<BR>actually be able to float "junk bonds" or
"penny stocks" to pay for the full transaction]<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>>>>><BR>Isn't it impressive how many halachic sources I can
quote? And isn't it amazing that I've turned around and endorsed the heter
mechira after being dubious about it in the past?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Actually, of course, I didn't write the above post. It was written by
an Areivim lurker. I am merely acting as his amanuensis.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
PTSIZE="10"><STRONG></STRONG><BR><B>--Toby
Katz<BR>=============<BR><BR></B><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><BR><BR>
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