<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Micha Berger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org">micha@aishdas.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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It's not trying to 2nd guess what he was trying to accomplish, but to<br>
simply read what he said. In RSRH's value system, the ghetto was something<br>
we nebich had to endure and temporarily stunted out opportunity to live<br>
according to the Torah.<br>
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Tir'u baTov!<br>
-Micha<br>
</blockquote></div><br>And AISI some in the Torah only world see the ghetto as a lechatchila and the TIDEr's and the "MO's [I prefer Centrists in this context] agree with Hirsch that this is short of the ideal.<br>
<br>Those RWO who want to put the genie back in the bottle are really longing nostalgically for the kind of oppression prevalent in Eastern Europe before the emanciaption. That was a horrifc way of life.<br><br>That is why I have been on a quest to find the best Western European Techniques for Adating a Torah lifestyle hear in America. And that includes TIDE but also Tosafos and others with a Western influnece, incuding Western Sephardim from Amsterdam and Hamburg [think of Rabbi De Sola Pool, et. al.]<br>
<br>If we can distill and combine the ideals of the Hirsch's- and other like-minded emancipated Torah girants - we can live in American Openly w/o the need of retreating but go on the offensive.<br><br>For exmaple, today in America we might need MORE Rambam and Less Arizal while say in EY the opposite might be true. <br>
<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Kesiva vaChasima Tova<br>Best Wishes for the New Year 5769<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a><br>
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