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<DIV><BR>RMB: 1- Is a sheivet that is among us but unidentified called
"lost"<BR>2- Is being called a Jew mean that we think you're from sheivet
Yehudah<BR> rather than Malkhus Yehudah? (Which changes whether
non-Leviim <BR> are being unspecified, or whether benei Binyamin and
Shim'on are being<BR> mislabeled.)<BR><BR>TK: 1. It is
possible that the ten "lost" tribes will only be restored through the correct
identification of Jews who already know they are Jewish. It is highly
unlikely that there are any other unknown Jews of the lost tribes out there
waiting to be "found." They are all assimilated into other nations.
If they are halachically Jewish on their mothers' line then they no longer
belong to any tribe on their fathers' side (since their fathers are not
Jewish.) If they are descended paternally from some shevet or other,
they are not Jewish on their mothers' side. There is no unexplored
island, forest, desert, mountain or country on the other side of the Sambatyon
where whole tribes could still be living undiscovered. There is no
Sambatyon (even though the Yated once had an article saying that there is --
without any comment!). If we ever found it, we could cross it easily on a
Wednesday with a helicopter.</DIV>
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<DIV>2. Today, any Jew called a "Yehudi" is simply a "non-Levi" -- exact
tribe unknown.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>R' Arie Folger wrote:<BR>: I wonder, whether everyone agrees that the
non Jewish child of a Jew, who <BR>: converted, has absolutely no filial
relationship with his father, or whether <BR>: some authorities would say that
while the qedushah of kehunah cannot be <BR>: transmitted this way, one could
maitain his status as a Danite, Reubenite, <BR>: Simonite, Zebulonite, Jew,
Benyaminite etc.<BR><BR>RMB: Rashi on Vayiqra 24:10 quotes Toras Kohanim that
the meqalel spoke in<BR>anger after being told he could not camp with shevet
Dan, and then Moshe<BR>confirmed their ruling.....Because<BR>he had no
sheivet.<BR><BR>So it would seem that even for non-Leviim, people with no
patrilineal<BR>line are sheivet-less.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>TK: The case RMB brings has no relevance to RAF's question.
RAF's question was about a convert whose mother is not Jewish, but his father is
Jewish. The question is, does he belong to his father's tribe, or, since
he was not born a Jew, is he considered to be shevet-less? </DIV>
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<DIV>RMB's case concerns a born Jew whose mother IS Jewish but his father is not
-- the exact opposite case. It has already been poskened in this case that
the fellow had no shevet, and could not claim his mother's shevet. RAF's
case I guess will have to wait for Eliyahu
Hanavi.<BR></DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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PTSIZE="10"><B><BR></B><BR><B>--Toby
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