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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The common thread between all the replies is that one hour of
not eating is not really fasting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I had thought of that answer but I find it to be incomplete. You
can&#8217;t have it both ways. Either it&#8217;s fasting, or it isn&#8217;t. If
it isn&#8217;t fasting, then there is no need to make a restriction on eating
and drinking during that time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> T613K@aol.com
[mailto:T613K@aol.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> avodah@lists.aishdas.org; stuart.feldhamer@gmail.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Tisha B'Av on Sunday <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>From: &quot;Stuart Feldhamer&quot; <a
href="mailto:stuart.feldhamer@gmail.com">stuart.feldhamer@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&gt;&gt;The halacha is that the fast starts at shkiah. Why is it
that we're allowed<br>
to fast on Shabbos for 9 Av, especially when Shabbos is docheh 9 Av? Since<br>
Bein Hashmashot is a safeik, why don't we see safeik d'oraita l'chumrah in<br>
the case of oneg Shabbos, and safeik d'rabbanan l'hakeil in the case of<br>
Tisha B'av?&lt;&lt;<br>
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
Once you have eaten anything that day, you are no longer fasting.&nbsp; My
husband always&nbsp;drinks some water Shabbos morning before going to shul,
&nbsp;in case he doesn't get around to kiddush before chatzos, so that he won't
be guilty of &quot;fasting&quot; on Shabbos.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Every time you go one hour without food -- especially when your
stomach is already full -- do you call that fasting?!&nbsp; But even if you
were actually hungry, it would not be called &quot;fasting&quot; if you had
eaten earlier that day.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<b>--Toby Katz<br>
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