<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Doron Beckerman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beck072@gmail.com">beck072@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Some potential differences between hating a Meisis and a regular Rasha:</div></div><br>__</blockquote></div><br>BePashtus the G'mara distinguishes between a Rasha gamur and A Rash that is NOT gamur<br>
<br>Lemme give a practical case:<br>I have debated people on this list re: the ikar being mussar or kehilah nad I plan to post on this in the future BEH.<br><br>In the meantime, a fellow in TEaneck was famous for his acts of Hessed on beahlf of the community but also notroious for his gruff behaviour to many sensitive people in the community.<br>
<br>In the mussar school he was a failure and in the community school he was a gadol. Such a person is almost be definition NEVER a rasha gamur because at heart he has the best interests of the community. OTOH, he can be a "rasha" of sorts in this he does hurt individuals [either emotionally or monetarily] and has no remorse nad is not mekabbel tochacha.<br>
<br>We really cannot totally hate this person, but he might be sona'acha in the case of prikah/t'einah. Becuase even when we tell him he as wrong so-and-so no one in their right mind would shun him due to his overwhlming acts of Hessed.<br>
<br>To be a Rasha Gamur AISI you gotta be out to harm the community in general, or perhaps Judaism in general. A Self-hating Jew who is moseir, could be such a perosn. Perhaps Bobby Fisher [had he been Halachically Jewish vai his Mom] could have fallen under this rubric-. because he was out to hurt Jews and Israel.<br>
<br>another illustration:<br>The Rasha at the Seder was described by Rabbi Maruice Lamm once as "a lovable Rasha."<br><br>IOW it is NOT ok to hate Mr. Gruff ba'al Hessed - although one might avoid him for the sake of Shalom, OTOH hating Bobby Fisher might be a mitzva. That is how I distinguish between the simple "rasha" and the "rasha gamur". <br>
<br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a><br>
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