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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN class=774080017-25072008>For some 
reason I can't cut and paste your post but I have to disagree that believing 
that chazal were fallible is tantamount to heresy.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN 
class=774080017-25072008></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT><SPAN class=774080017-25072008><FONT face=Arial><FONT 
color=#0000ff>Also I believe the flavor of Chana's post <SPAN 
class=893023814-25072008>was diminidshed by&nbsp;at least 2 </SPAN><SPAN 
class=893023814-25072008>statements that concerned me:</SPAN></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><SPAN class=893023814-25072008></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=893023814-25072008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>"Most of 
those within the Modern Orthodox world would approve of any method being 
utilized, any method which would seem to bring us closer to God, whether it be 
historical analysis, psychological readings or any sort of outside tool which 
will aid us in our understanding of <SPAN class=blsp-spelling-error 
id=SPELLING_ERROR_4>Tanakh</SPAN> and the Torah"&nbsp;&nbsp; - where did&nbsp; 
this demographic information from and didn't chazal use these types of analysis/ 
IIUC R'YBS was saying that they must be used within the self contained system of 
halacha, not that they can't be of value.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=893023814-25072008><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=893023814-25072008><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff>" One 
has the right to speak only when he realizes whom he is speaking to, and whom he 
is speaking of, and this is something that alas very few within the Modern 
Orthodox world understand- because it is not something they have been taught. 
"&nbsp; again a sweeping generalization based on what?<SPAN 
class=774080017-25072008>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=893023814-25072008><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN 
class=774080017-25072008></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=893023814-25072008><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN 
class=774080017-25072008>KT<BR>Joel Rich&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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