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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(To moderator, I have trimmed the quote as
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>R'n TK wrote:</FONT><BR>>>>><BR>My
father said that women can't be eidim (eidos?) because they tend to see
<BR>the whole picture and don't confine themselves to "just the facts,
ma'am." <BR>They will not only say that the guy picked up the
knife but will also include <BR>his emotions, his motives, the whole
context. He also said that HKBH judges <BR>people the way women do
-- seeing the big picture, the inside of a person as <BR>well as his
outward actions -- but a bais din cannot judge that way.<BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>....</FONT><BR>He also gave other reasons:<BR> <BR>One
reason is similar to why women are exempt from mitzvos asei shehazman
<BR>grama -- they have household duties that are of greater importance than
public <BR>affairs. ... Women as a class are responsible for
children and households.<BR> <BR>And another reason is concern for the
dignity and modesty of women, not to <BR>subject them to the hurley-burley
of court.<BR>....</DIV>
<DIV> <BR>BTW my father also said that you see from other mitzvos that the
reason for <BR>exempting women from testifying is NOT because they are not
trustworthy. In <BR>matters that are of utmost weight -- even
involving possible penalties of <BR>kareis -- a woman's word is totally
believed. If she says she did bedikos and <BR>is not nidah, or if
she says she went to the mikva, or if she says she checked <BR>the rice
for bugs or kashered the kitchen for Pesach, etc., etc., her word <BR>can
be relied on.<BR><BR><BR>--Toby Katz<BR>=============<BR><FONT face=Arial
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ashreichen benos Yisrael She'RnTK
beineichen.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kol Tuv</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chaim Manaster</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS: RnTK wrote: "<FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>And another reason is concern for the dignity and modesty of women, not
to <BR>subject them to the hurley-burley of court."</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>CM comments:
Tos. San. 30a d"h "Col Kevooda Bas Melech Penima" seems not to agree
with this reason.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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