<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:17 PM, <<a href="mailto:T613K@aol.com">T613K@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font style="background-color: transparent;" size="2" color="#000000" face="Arial"><div class="Ih2E3d">From: "Richard Wolpoe" <<a href="mailto:rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com" target="_blank">rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Holy Name Hospital in Teaneck, the nuns often do things like shave the<br>people
in a coma. Should we deny both the patient and the nuns this act of<br>Hessed
lest someone construe them as "legitimate?" <<<br>--
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<div>>>>><br>As a strong proponent of austritt, I can say once again
that you don't seem to quite understand what austritt entails. Neither I
nor any Orthodox rabbi, not even Rabbiner Hirsch himself, would object to a
Reform rabbi shaving a person in a coma. </div>
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<div><font size="2" color="#0000ff" face="Arial" lang="0"><br><b>--Toby
Katz<br>=============</b></font></div></font></div></blockquote><div><br><ol><li>So if a Reform Rabbi serves as chaplain in Hospital X you are syaing unequivocably that it is NOT a recognition of his legitimacy?</li><li>
And if so, How come Rabbi Salomon Breuer couldn't even TALK about Rabbi Nobel's petirah [given that Rabbi Nobel himself was Orthodox!]?</li><li>How do you construe the lecture on Tehilim at the JCC on the Palisades? Is the inclusion of Non_ Rabbis a fatal flaw in Austritt?</li>
<li>How about the issue of Chanifa brought up before?....</li></ol>Case in point. I was a gabbai in a RW Yeshiva. The Baalei Batim were privlieged to be honoured with pesichos on Yamim Nora'im but NOT the bachurim, But I was also told NOT to honour any Ba'al Habayyis who had leather shoes on YK. Ribbono Shel Olam! The group being honoured included numerous [not jsut 1 or 2] members who had leather shoes on YK albeit those in particular were excluded - but those same people had NOT been excluded during the previous RH. <br>
<br>OTOH the ENTIRE set of yeshiva Bachrurim did NOT have leather on their feet on YK Shoudlnt' THEY have come first? Isn't this Chanifa to honour as a class a set of people who are not uniformly in uniform on the holiest day of the year in ostensibly the holiest beis midrash in town? <br>
</div></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>
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