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size=2>From: Zev Sero <A
href="mailto:zev@sero.name">zev@sero.name</A><BR><BR>> ....the <BR>>
g'mara is describing the excellent vision of the bird in question.... <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> That's on the literal level. Homiletically, IMNSHO this phrase
very <BR>> aptly describes those who live in chu"l and are constantly harping
on <BR>> things in Israel. [--RSM]<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000
size=2>>>The problem with this homiletics game is that it is just a game;
the<BR>darshan is really giving his own view, not the gemara's, so nobody
is<BR>obliged to accept it. But some people are left with the
impression<BR>that this is the gemara's or the medrash's view, and cite it (as
was<BR>done on Areivim) as if it had some authority.<BR><BR>-- <BR>Zev
Sero </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>What does the Gemara actually say? What is the context in which this
bird's vision is discussed?</DIV>
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