<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Micha Berger <<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org" target="_blank">micha@aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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</div>R' Joshua Meisner Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:21 PM<br>
: Michal bas Shaul, although technically it was before she married him (Sh"A<br>
: 18:20).<br>
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On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 08:19:28PM -0400, R Stuart Feldhamer wrote:<br>
: Great example - see Sh"B 6:16 : )<br>
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A marriage with no anger and fighting isn't a healthy marriage.<br>
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I used this idea to explain Avraham's argument with the RBSO WRT Sedom,<br>
and Moshe's battle to save Kelal Yisrael. I suggested that even when it<br>
comes to the RBSO, He expects a real relationship from us. And since<br>
we're human beings, that includes times of anger and argument.</blockquote></div><br>RSF is correct that Michal is likely the only woman in Tanach to feel bizayon towards her husband, but I don't believe that the two pesukim provide an absolute contrast (whether or not that was the point being made by RSF, it was a point that I, myself, have made more than once in the past). The opposite of ahavah is not bizayon, but sin'ah. Bizayon is not hatred (despite JPS' translation of despise); it's belittlement. <br>
<br>The love that Michal felt for her father's hero need not be counterindicated by the bizayon she felt towards her husband, the king. Indeed, it may precisely have been her powerful love for David that caused her to be so hurt by her feeling that David was wronging himself by his self-degradation. This being the case, the argument between Michal and David need not have been tainted by anger (although I suppose it depends on how one defines anger).<br>
<br>Kol tuv,<br><br>Joshua<br><br><br><br><br>