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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">S"A O"C 132:2 - Rama says to say a kaddish after aleinu even where there is no chiyuv. Recently I was told by a friend that his Rav said this is lav davka and really meant the final kaddish which is now after shir shel yom. I vaguely remember hearing bshem R' YBS that the kaddish after aleinu is the "real" concluding kaddish (vs. kaddish shalem)<BR>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> what are the actual practices out there? Any other insights on the above?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">KT<BR>
Joel Rich<BR>
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