<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Zev Sero <<a href="mailto:zev@sero.name">zev@sero.name</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Did the 72 candidates Moshe chose all do a lengthy course of prep for<br>
nevu'ah, between being chosen and going out? The Rambam seems to say<br>
that this is what every person needs to do to complete himself, and<br>
one who has done so may or may not experience nevu'ah. A person could<br>
deliberately not do the prep work, but I can't imagine that his/her<br>
spouse could order him/her not to. And once the person is a suitable<br>
keli for nevu'ah, it doesn't seem to be up to him whether Hashem will<br>
choose to speak to him. Are we to believe that when Hashem wants to<br>
speak to someone they can just not take the call? Have their secretary<br>
tell Him that they're out? Yonah tried to run away from nevu'ah; it<br>
didn't work.<br>
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Zev Sero <br></div></blockquote></div><br><br>I have zero evidence that Hshem does not speak to anyone or everyone. nevuah that is special is limited to nevu'ah that relates to society as a whole<br><br>
We were told this in Ner Israel. The 4 wives of Ya'aqov knew there would be 12 sons but NONE were includied in the list of "nei'im" or nevi'os" the Asnwer given by my rebb: {quoting someone - Ramban perhaps} is that PIRVATE nevuah was available to "non-Nevi'im" too. Public ne'uah isdifferent.<br>
<br>A Xtian theolgoian and I had a conversation: I asked him<br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">Q: When does G-d talk via Prophets and when via angels?</blockquote>
<div>His answer:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">A: privately via angels, publicly via prophets. </blockquote><div><br>I'm sure this theologian never read the Rambam. although he had a general knowledge of Judaism.<br>
</div> Think of Eishes Manoa'achm, Hagar etc.<br><br>I do not know the parameters of the Rambam. Clearly there WERE b'nei nevi'im doing prep work. The Rambam did not invent the concept of being on a madreiga to get nevi'us. <br>
<br>But Hashem STILL is not bound by any such rules.[Even though people like to play those games] I know numerous people in my life who have claimed Divine commands to do things. One told me he moved and took his current job on 2 separate Divinie "commands" and that he was assured of a third.<br>
<br>I personally know of Xtians who accepted Mal'achi's heed to give ma'aser and then almost immediately prospered. </div><br>Point? Hashem can bypass the Rambam's requirements, but that is no excuse for a "ben Navi" not to do his homework.<br>
<br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>