<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Micha Berger <<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org">micha@aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:17:12 -0700 (PDT), Richard Wolpoe<br>
<<a href="mailto:RabbiRichWolpoe@gmail.com">RabbiRichWolpoe@gmail.com</a>> pointed us to his Nisha Blog entry at<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><<a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/2008/06/evolutionary-patterns-in-halachic-texts.html" target="_blank">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/2008/06/evolutionary-patterns-in-halachic-texts.html</a>><br>
</div>"Evolutionary Patterns in Halachic Texts":<br>
> Below I have outlined a very simplistic model. The common theme is<br>
> expansion and contraction or condensation - much like a Chiastic<br>
> structure.<br>
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I think your suggestion as you then spell it out is more straightforward<br>
than this introductory summary:<br>
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What defines an era is a sudden reduction ("mishnaic form") followed by a<br>
slow expansion first through noting significant excluded options, then<br>
through more gemera-like development.<br>
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Is R' Yosef Caro unique in being both Maran Bet Yosef of the "gemara"<br>
ending the rishonim and the Mechaber of the "mishnah" beginning the<br>
acharonim?<br>
</blockquote><div><br>In effect he is, but he is really mirroring the Rambam.<br>Remember Rambam, SA and Kitzur SA all cite no sources.<br>Tur does at times. <br><br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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I think the Tur's organization scheme is derived from the Bavli's.<br>
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Rebbe had 6 sedarim. But the Bavli only has 4 plus to mesechtos.<br>
OCh = Mes. Berakhos + Mo'eid<br>
EhE = Nashim + Mes. Niddah<br>
CM = Nezikim<br>
YD = Qodshim<br>
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:-)BBii!<br>
-Micha<br>
</blockquote><div><br>True. But the Tur's simanim aee NOW ubiquitous. Vritually no one emulates Rambam's divinsions nor Chayei Adma's etc<br><br>And the S'eifim of the SA have NOW been retrofitted to:<br>
<ol><li>Tur</li><li>BY</li><li>AhSh</li><li>MB <br></li></ol></div></div>I think the MB migh have wanted to accomplish a Talmud of Acahronim but I am not convinced he succeeded. As you know I thin the AhSh did better, but I also concede it is not a complete work either.<br>
<br>The Badei Hashulchan is a fine Body of work but he does not quote all major sources either.<br><br> <br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>