<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Richard Wolpoe <<a href="mailto:rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com">rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>FWIW, I have a novel interpretaion of 613 mitzvos were all given at Sinai. Not that all 613 were given at one time [Pesach Sheini and B'nos Zlaphchad would be difficult to explain away]<br>
Rather HKBH told Moshe at Sinai:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">"When I get done with you ther WIll BE 613 Mitzvos in all!" <br>
</blockquote><div><br></div>THAT was the "613" given on day one at Sinai.<br>This also explains the Behag who includes derabbanan's in HIS 613. That is because only the TALLY of 613 were given at Sinai but NOT literally all 613 separate commandments! OR if you will the EXPECTATION of 613 was given but not the actual list.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br><a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"></a></font></blockquote><div><br>Also this explains how it is that no tann'im or amoraim chalenge each other re: Minyan hamitzvos. IOW we would have thoght that for every differfence in drasha it would impact the enumeration of hte Taryag and that they should be forced to explain the impact of each decision.<br>
<br>Also, this explains that even Moshe Rabbeinu himslef might have never know precisely which 613 comprised the Chseshbon EVEN if all 613 were given at day one. That is becuase he was not given a specifcally enumerated list, but rather a final tally w/o necessarily EVER knowing the process to produce said tally.<br>
<br>So Moshe Rabbeinu himself might have been like any Tanna or Amora, in that the specifics of any individual mitzvah belong or not - does not neceesarily impact the bottom line tally. And thus there may have NEVER been a Masorah re: Taryag other than the bottom line, until the Shavuos Azharos, Behag R. Sa'adyah Ga'on etc. came about in the Ga'onic era.<br>
<br>-- <br></div></div>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>