<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Arie Folger <<a href="mailto:afolger@aishdas.org">afolger@aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">RRW wrote:<br>
> I could be wrong but menachos that were 'rekikim" seem to me to be wafer<br>
> like and NOT flexible at all. That does not mean there was no suc hthing as<br>
> bendable matzo [iow unleavened pita] but I am not convinced that this was<br>
> EVER the exclusive matza formula...<br>
<br>
</div>Pardon me, but IIUC, there were four basic type of mena'hot, plus some special<br>
cases like min'hot 'havitin, min'hat sotah and le'hem hapanim. They were not<br>
all prepared the same way. While some were reqiqin, not all were.<br>
<br>
Thus, nothing indicates that a simple min'hat solet would be hard baked. In<br>
fact, neither need a min'hat mar'heshet be hard, it was possibly rather a<br>
kind of unleavened dumpling. Min'hah 'al ma'hvat could conceivably have been<br>
a soft pan cake. The hard one was min'hat pitim, and the fact that it is a<br>
category unto itself indicates that perhaps it was the only hard baked<br>
min'hah. (but this is debatable, as the point of pitim is the double baking<br>
process, not it becoming hard.)<br>
<br>
Furthermore, as the mena'hot contained oil, they were fundamentally different<br>
from le'hem 'oni, which we were discussing originally. Parenthetically<br>
[or, "(parenthetically? ;-))"], I can't recall whether the le'hem hapanim was<br>
made with or without oil. Parshat Emor mentions only flour, no oil.<br>
<br>
KT,<br>
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Arie Folger<br>
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</font></blockquote></div><br>I am willing to concede that of the above is [probably] correct. But it is esentiall irrlevant to my point<br><br>The Rambam refers to taking a Rekik [see hilchos Hametz uMatzah]<br>Q:is THAT particular kind of mincha or matzah hard or flexiible? That is my only salient point.<br>
If hard, then Rambam saw matzos as hard, <br>OTOH if Rekik ecnompasses flexible Laffa-like matzos, then my raya is flawed. <br><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>