<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Michael Makovi <<a href="mailto:mikewinddale@gmail.com">mikewinddale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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My understanding is that the concern is you'll build a new musical<br>
instrument from scratch l'gamre, on the spot, as people apparently<br>
were capable of back in the day.<br><br>
Mikha'el Makovi</blockquote></div><br>The fact is any child can build a musical instrument out of 2 empty walnut shells and click them o make a beat this is called a castanet.<br><br>The facts WERE that this was VERY common in Spain and maybe not as common in France but the CONCERN is always there<br>
<br>AIUI any rhythmic baning on a table of rhythmic slapping on the thigh or rhythmic stomping on the ground is tantamount to playing a percussion instrument.<br><br>In fact AhS notes that people tune and sting guitars nowadays. So he claims OUR dancing is differfent ayin orachchim 339<br>
I am probably a da'as yachid ho holds that TUNING an instrument - as opposed to REPAIRING an instrument - is mamash tikkun maneh or a d'orraisso of makeh bepatish<br><br>Various levels:<br><ol><li>making one brand new</li>
<li>Repairing</li><li>Tuning<br></li></ol>If you hold playing bongo drums is assur on Shabbos then I would add baning on the table ESPECIALLY with cutlery is ALSO assur.<br><br>Suurice it so say consult the Mishna in Beiza, the SA [339] Rema AhS Igros Moshe, Kaf cahchayyim Mishna Bruar. I have seen Zichru toras Msohe and Kehillas YT andI plan to see Chyei Adam and SA Harav, BEH<br>
<br>- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>