<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Ben Waxman <<a href="mailto:ben1456@zahav.net.il">ben1456@zahav.net.il</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
In the Igrot Moshe HM 2:29 Rav Moshe writes that if someone were able to obtain extra funding for a yeshiva through false claims, such an action would involve sins suchs as stealing, lieing, geneivat da'at, khilul Hashem and disgracing the Torah and its believers, and that there is no heter in the world for such an action. Further, anyone who would do such a thing is a rodef.<br>
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Ben<br>
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From: Zev Sero <<a href="mailto:zev@sero.name" target="_blank">zev@sero.name</a>><br>
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There is no chilul Hashem because no normal person cares about the<br>
law just because it is the law. <br>
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_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></div><br>Interesting. I overheard 2 rabbis from a local Yeshiva high school who were registering a phone in the dorm as a home phone even though it was an institutional phone and I questioned the eh tics of this.<br>
<br>I asked my own LOR is this a case o G'neivas Da'as, iow representing the phone for personal use instead of institutional use.<br><br>He said NO it is not G'nievas Da'as it is MAMASH G'neiva. It's like an a adult buying a child's discounted ticket by lying about one's age. <br>
<br><br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>