<div class="gmail_quote">(Carried over from Areivim.)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Kayza Zajac <<a href="mailto:s.zajac@verizon.net" target="_blank">s.zajac@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Firstly,the changes in societal norms do NOT <reduce the halacha to<br>"Don't violate those societal norms."> I mentioned the example of<br>
paying the baby-sitter. It's a surprisingly common problem, which<br>applies to many other trades people. In addition, it also means that<br>even if the norm is to pay bi-weekly, for instance, that still leaves<br>you with a Halachik obligation to meet pay-roll ON TIME.</blockquote>
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<div>That just means that halacha obligates you to follow societal norms very strictly, even more strictly than societal norms will obligate. But it is the level of obligation that changes, not the requirement. Societal norm is to pay the babysitter when you drop her off; halacha obligates you to follow this norm, and means that you're over several lavim if you don't pay her then. But halachic distinctions about poel yom, poel layla, shkiah, etc. are for the most part (not entirely, but mostly) irrelevant.</div>
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<div>KT,</div>
<div>Michael</div></div>