<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:41 PM, <<a href="mailto:T613K@aol.com">T613K@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2"><br><div><font style="background-color: transparent;" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2">The original point was that amaratzim tend not to be careful with
halacha, and that halachic observance and yiras Shamayim improve with more
Torah learning. (Torah meaning Talmud.) However, this is only true
for men.</font></div></font></div></blockquote><div><br>What's your evidence?<br> Personal anecdotal? Field research? Control groups? Double-blind studies? --grins--<br><br>RYBS disputes your claim that Halacha can be properly understood from 2ndary sources. GRA, Rosh have stated similarly on the record<br>
<br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a><br> <br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2"><div><font style="background-color: transparent;" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2"> For girls and women, it is enough to learn halacha and
hashkafa. They do not /need/ to learn Gemara in order to have yiras
Shamayim and dikduk bemitzvos. </font></div>
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<div>If it ain't broke don't fix it.</div>
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<div>Some women derive intellectual pleasure from learning Gemara. Fine,
good for them. Irrelevant to my point.</div></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" lang="0" size="2"><b><br></b><br><b>--Toby
Katz<br>=============<br></b><br></font></div></font></div></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br><br>