<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:17 AM, Arie Folger <<a href="mailto:afolger@aishdas.org">afolger@aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">RRW wrote:<br>
> When I learned the sugya of Giyyur with R. Parness one summer [circa 1973]<br>
> he concluded that a prospective ger who is mekabel "ol mitzovs" - despite<br>
> admitting that he might give in to temptation - is acceptable. IOW he did<br>
> not have to plege absolute compliance, just sincere acceptance.<br>
><br>
> What more can one ask from any normal human? can perfection ever be<br>
> considered a prerequesite?<br>
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</div>RRW's definition is likely correct. However, against those who would suggest<br>
that some require a level of perfection unheard of among humans who are not<br>
the gedolei hador, let me state that that, which RRW rejects is a straw man.</blockquote><div><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Good Shabbos,<br>
<div><div class="Wj3C7c">--<br>
Arie Folger<br>
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</div></div></blockquote><br><br><br>it is NOT a straw man - here is why thre is a hilluk:: <br><div style="margin-left: 40px;">While No ger is expected to be 100% faithful to Troah than any normal human<br>the Hilluk here is that the Ger in OUR CASE is artciulating his human FRAILTY during hsi process of accepting the mitzvos. IOW he is going IN with the foresight that he may fall down. This is the Hiddush. Indeed there is no hiddush if after accepting 100% w/o pre-conditions that he falls down he is OK<br clear="all">
</div></div></div><br>See the Hilluk?<br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>