<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:41 PM, <<a href="mailto:RallisW@aol.com">RallisW@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font style="background-color: transparent;"><font face="Arial" size="2">If chometz is botel b'shishim before Pesach. If an item is already botel and purchased before Pesach may it be consumed on Yom Tov? IOW once something is botel does it stay botel?</font></font></div>
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<div>My basic question is if you have a product which has less than shishim of chometz contained in it, which is botel before Yom Tov. What happens if you buy that product on Chol HaMoed? When does botel b'shishim occur when it's made or when you purchase it?</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>According to the Rambam it is a davar seehyeish lo mattirim and AFIK would never be battel until Passover has passed over <br></div></div><br>According to Rosh and others the Bittul would have to have AIUI:<br>
<ol><li>Pre-Pasover Possession by a Jew [definetely]</li><li>Yedi'ah that there is a bittul</li><ol><li> [almost a slam-dunk for Rema, <br></li><li>a high probabilty for other ashkenazim. Yedi'a makes a Hallos of bittul] </li>
<li>this can be shown by the sugya of "kam Kama batteil</li></ol><li>The question is why is there no Hozeir v'Nei'or during Passover?</li><li>The Pri Megaddim in his Pesicha to Hilchos Melicha rules agasint any leachtichila bitul of hametz BEFORE Passover</li>
<ol><li>This COULD create a problme of purchasing already battel hametz depending upon your definitions of:</li><ol><li> be'diavad [iow after purchase or after using it]</li><li>Assur lemi shebiteil bishvillo [See YD 99]<br>
</li></ol></ol></ol>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>