<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Micha Berger <<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org">micha@aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
He would push his talmidim to learn how to be<br>
autonomous LORs before assuming the role. The yeshivish LOR is more<br>
likely to refer to his RY. Balance needs to be found -- matching ability<br>
to responsibility assumed.<br>
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But notice that the first half of this post, defining Daas Torah is<br>
totally unrelated to the issues raised in the half about MO and DT.<br>
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Tir'u baTov!<br>
-Micha<br>
<font color="#888888"></font></blockquote><div><br></div></div><br>It is clear from pashas yisro [set aside the 70 for a mintue] that there is a Torah hierarchy. Sarei Assoross, Sarei Hamishim etc.<br clear="all"><br>Any group will eventually settle into a hierarchy by its very nature, the leaders will rise to the top and the low-level leaders to the middle etc.<br>
<br>Any rabbi who is not an ego-maniac or a victim of really low-self-esteem will pretty much realize which rung he is on - l'havdil Grandmaster Sober said before Americans made a fettish about belt-rankings, martial arts school students INTUITIVELY knew the hierarchy of who was more senior w/o any special belts or hitzoniyosdik symbols. They knew who was on which madreiga.<br>
<br>of course Torah is a bit more complex. than my colleague R. Howard
Jachter is certainly a greater expert than I in gittin about which I know almost Zero, but it's still possible I know issur v'heter better.<br><br>Often I consult other rabbonim just to get an objective outside opinion even if I feel competent on the issues [ein dan yechidi ela echod, tov hashnayyim min ho'echad, etc.] <br>
<br><br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>