On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:48 PM, <a href="mailto:kennethgmiller@juno.com">kennethgmiller@juno.com</a> <<a href="mailto:kennethgmiller@juno.com">kennethgmiller@juno.com</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">R' Micha Berger wrote:<br>
> If you say that the concept of lechem oni is part of the<br>
</div>> usual YT concept of se'udah, then [[snipped]] ...<br>
> However, if you say that they are distinct, then ... one<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> would need a kezayis from each -- the lechem mishneh and<br>
> the lechem oni.<br>
<br>
</div>Are you saying that one is not yotzei Lechem Mishneh unless he eats a kezayis of it? That if I have a small piece of the baal habayis's two challahs, and then eat some of the sliced bread on the table for the kezayis of seudah, that I have not fulfilled the mitzvah of Lechem Mishneh?<br>
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Akiva Miller</blockquote></div><br>Ein hachi Name, that was in my earlier post - namely that jsut a small amound of the hamotzi should be enough and that 2 k'zeisim is not needed, just a kezyis of al achilas plus some more of hamotzi. But pehraps the argument is that the "plus some more" itself requires a minimum of another k'zayyis, but I am not quite convinced. <br>
<br>Lemashal, If Imake kiddush on a revi'is of wine, is not that revi'is enough to create a shi'ur for bracha ahcaronah etc. as well as enough to make kiddush? IOW can't the one sh'iur handle 2 functions? <br>
<br>OTOH, "ein ossin mitzos havillos" might require a separate kos [think of sheva brachos]<br><br>At any rate, the idea of eating 2 kzeisim simultaneously imho makes little sense. Aderabbo, if you need TWO k'zeisim it makes sense to eat them SEPARATELY albeit wio a hefsek between them<br>
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