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size=2>From: Zev Sero <A
href="mailto:zev@sero.name">zev@sero.name</A><BR><BR>>>As I have always
understood it, the Keini were Jews. They're a separate<BR>nation in the
same sense as all gerim are: they are not of the 12 tribes;<BR>until they
intermarry with Bnei Yisrael they are not "kehal Hashem"; and<BR>they have no
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size=2>Meforshim on Shoftim are all over the place. Some say the Keini
were Jews, others say they were non-Jews who were closely allied with the Jews,
and others say that some of the Keini were Jews and some were not.
Interesting to me is that they are still called "gerim" by those who consider
them Jews, even though by the time of Shoftim they have already been Jews for
generations.</FONT></DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial
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<DIV>This all comes up in the context of Yael (the one who killed Sisrah in her
tent) -- with meforshim disagreeing about whether she was Jewish or
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
PTSIZE="10"><BR><B>--Toby
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