RTK wrote: <font id="role_document" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2"><font style="background-color: transparent;" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2">I just don't understand this whole tzimmes. What's the big deal about saying Ramban might have been wrong about something? There are plenty of times that other meforshim disagree with Ramban about this and that.<br><br>Me: The "tzimmes" is well known, especially in the lst few years. I'm just wondering, before I quote this Ramban as a source in the whole tzimmes discussion, whether there is a viable way out of the tzimmes for this particular source.<br><br>(We have Rishonim saying that other Rishonim are wrong. No chidush. We have Achronim saying that a Rishon is wrong if it's to come to defend and explain the intent of a different Rishon. No chidush there either. But saying a Rishon is wrong is a big deal. Those are the rules of the game as I was taught. At least when it comes to a pshat in learning.
When it involves areas that aren't Torah but are quoted in the Gemara, well here comes the tzimmes. And when it involves a Rishon using science to explain a posuk, well the tzimmes just got thicker! And when it comes to halochos in the Gemara based on information we can't relate to, well the tzimmes is getting so thick it's amazing)<br></font></font><br>RTK: <font id="role_document" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2"><font style="background-color: transparent;" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="2">Some people think that if you say Chazal or Ramban or the Sefer Hachinuch were wrong about some scientific fact, then you are being disrespectful to them. I was raised with a completely different understanding and a different attitude...</font></font><b><i></i></b><br><br>Me: I'm not surprised by that. Just wondering, did your father zt"l ever discuss this subject with any Rebbes from Ger? I doubt it, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Did he ever discuss with you
how he made peace with being a chossid in some matters and a Hirschian in others - especially in areas where they conflict in a big way - such as the current Torah/Science tzimmes?<br>