<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 7, 2008 5:49 AM, Eli Turkel <<a href="mailto:eliturkel@gmail.com">eliturkel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>I just read a sefer (respectfully) attacking many of the psakim of ROY<br>on the basis<br>of old Morrocan minhagim and urging the Morrocoan community to keep to their<br>own customs and not be overwhelmed by what other sefardi communties do.<br>
Most of the sefer is a halachic justification of their customs against<br>the psak of<br>ROY to change them<br>The end has several articles of a general nature on psak<br>In particular they point out that most communities have been<br>
influenced by outside<br>sources. In particular sefardim were very influenced by the Rosh and<br>his descendants<br>who lived in Toledo for many generations.<br><font color="#888888"><br>--<br>Eli Turkel</font></blockquote>
</div><br><br>There is a big difference between the Anicent Ashkenazicatitude towards local minhag nad the Sephardic approach<br><br>Ashkenaz: Every locale is uber alles. You simply do NOT impose minhag Magenza in Spyeres. etc. <br>
<br>Sepharad: Aderabbo: If you can bulddoze your way thru and destroy local customs, hazak uvaruch. The Rif''s Talmidim altered Minhag EY, The Rambam attacked Iraqi minhaggim, Ben Ish Chai cahnged minhag Bagda from RY Karo to Ari, and ROY is trying to do the same. <br>
<br>I guess you can defend the sepahdic approahc as the ultimate humra on lo sisgoedu. If you can force the entire world to follow just ONE poseik you have the ultimate obviatiion of any lo sisgodedu and ultra simplification of Halacha<br>
<br>Se the REma's intro to the Mappah where he feared that RY Karo's SA would be treated as "miSinai" so he felt compelled to respond with the Mappah. W/o this fear, The Rema could have ignored the SA just as most Ashknezim today ignore the Kaf haChayyim. But Rema knew the danger that any Minhag Ashkenaz would be subject to homogenization.<br>
<br>The proof of this - and the irony -is that the Rema's biggest single source is the Beis Yosef itself. In the BY, RY Karo is very plurlistic, but in his sefer ps'akim viz. the SA, he is very partisan. <br><br>
I guess you might say<br>There is a Tradition in Sepharad do away with others' traditions<br><br>Sepharadim might counter-attack and say [with some justification] that Ashkenazim have a tradition to do away the Halacha in favor of minhag. and on and on it goes.<br clear="all">
<br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br><a href="mailto:RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com">RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com</a><br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>