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At 11:55 AM 2/6/2008, Sholom Simon wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">> What I have never
understood is why this is a 60 minute hour and the<br>
> time is based on the "secular" clock. To the best of my
knowledge,<br>
> the 60 minute hour is not "generic" to Halacha. The times
of the day<br>
> are based on Shaos Z'manios. So why aren't Shaos Z'manios used in
the<br>
> determination of what between 6 and 7 means, rather than
secular<br>
> time.<br><br>
I don't know the actual reason, but I could posit one that seems
intuitive<br>
to me. The Shaos Z'manios are based on the sun. But this
"influence" of<br>
various planets are not. If we go by the stars (ignore that these
planets<br>
are not what we call stars today) it makes more sense to use a fixed
hour<br>
than a solar-type hour.<br><br>
But on my question, we digres . . . . <g><br><br>
-- Sholom</blockquote><br>
But presumably this reason for avoiding a certain hour to make Kiddush
predates the institution of the secular hour by the Babylonians. For a
discussion of this see
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yugh47" eudora="autourl">
http://tinyurl.com/yugh47</a></b> and
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/9rb7r" eudora="autourl">
http://tinyurl.com/9rb7r</a> . </b>Thus, if doing this is to make sense,
the hour should be Shaos Z'manios, not (gentile) hours. <br><br>
Are you implying that there is something inherently true, from a halachic
standpoint, about using base 60? <br><br>
YL<br><br>
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