<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 20, 2008 3:39 PM, <a href="mailto:kennethgmiller@juno.com">kennethgmiller@juno.com</a> <<a href="mailto:kennethgmiller@juno.com">kennethgmiller@juno.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br></div>I want to make sure I'm understanding you. Suppose a plain piece of raw meat was placed in a keli (such as our pots or our pans), without any water or oil or other liquid, and then that keli was placed on a stovetop, and the fire was turned on, and it was kept like that until the meat became fit to eat. Then it turned out that the keli had been a dairy one.
<br><br>Are you saying that this keli can be kashered by hagalah, and that libun is not required?<br><br>If that's not what you mean, then please clarify further. If that IS what you mean, I do follow your logic, but it is quite a chiddush to me, and I'd love to see your source. (OTOH, I never really learned YD in depth, so it being a chiddush proves nothing.)
<br><br>Thanks<br>Akiva Miller<br><div><div class="Wj3C7c"></div></div></blockquote><div><br><br>Zli vs. Bishul make all kinds of nafka minas for getting rid of Dam [as in a liver/kaved] and also wrt to abosption [kdei kilpa vs. totla bliah]
<br><br>When you roast in a pan you are cooking. Period with or withou any added liquid.<br>You cannot "kasher" [viz. remove dam] by pan roasting.<br> <br>There are probably other cases such as milk/meat contaminations [roasting milk and meat in a LARGE vented oven would not create bass bechalav pan roasting meat and cheese would probably do a d'orraiso bishul. yada yada yada]
<br></div></div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br><a href="mailto:RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com">RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com</a><br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/
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