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size=2><BR>R' Zev Sero wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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size=2>>>This is moreshes avosenu<<</FONT></DIV>
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size=2>and R' Richard Wolpoe <A
href="mailto:rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com">rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com</A> wrote:<BR></FONT></DIV>
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size=2>>>When Moishe Rabbeinu came down from the mountain the Egel was
minhag Yisroel<BR>And so was the Egel Minhag for 10 Sevatim after
Yerav'am<BR>And was AZA prevalent in the during the late of Bayyis
Rishon....</FONT></DIV>
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size=2><BR>...So are you REALLY saying is that any superstition that violates
Tamim<BR>tihyeh im Hashem Elokecha is OK so long as it is
popular?<<<BR><BR>-- <BR>Kol Tuv / Best
Regards,<BR>RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com<BR>see:
http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/<BR></DIV></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>>>>>><BR>Are you seriously trying to claim that davening at
Kever Rochel or singing Sholom Aleichem is the same as the egel or the A'Z
temple of Yeravam?! That is quite a stretch. If the debate here is
over normative Judaism, it is certainly RRW and not RZS who is taking the
radical position. (The question of davening to the Rebbe /instead of/
davening to Hashem is a far more serious problem, and on that point RRW may
well be correct.) But saying at a tzaddik's kever
"Please be a meilitz yosher for us" is /not/ A'Z. "Kol beramah
nishma, Rochel mevaka al baneha" establishes the principle that tzaddikim can
ask Hashem for rachamim for their children -- even after said tzaddikim have
left this world. Asking them, "Go to Father and plead for us" is not
A'Z. Asking the malachim to give you a bracha is likewise not A'Z, any
more than asking any person for a bracha is A'Z. "Al tehi birchas hedyot
kal be'einecha" means ordinary people can bentsh other people, and
certainly malachim can. If a person can bentsh another person, what is to say
you can't actually ask for a bracha? It is still up to Hashem
to fulfill the bracha.</DIV>
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<DIV>PS Despite the thread subject, I do not believe in kinesiology, iridology,
homeopathy et al. They may not be A'Z but it is a separate mitzva, very
well known, for a Jew to have seichel.</DIV>
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