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<p>In Avodah Digest V25#18, RZS wrote:<br>
> The gemara is Shabbos 32a. The fault condemned is that of referring to<br>
the holy by common terms, as if it were not special. Specifically,<br>
referring to the aron kodesh as a "cupboard", and to the shul as a<br>
"public house". IOW the point isn't what you *name* something, it's<br>
what you *call* it, which shows how you *regard* it. <<br>
And, it seems to me (considering not just how one regards an object or place of q'dushah but how one utilizes it), that b'raisa implies that the "k'nesses" aspect of a "beis k'nesses" doesn't indicate ordinary "gathering." Would any gathering for the sake of a mitzva remove it from what RaShY ad loc. describes as the "l'shon bizui" of "beis am," or do only certain "gathering"s qualify? The way I understand MaHaRSHA ad loc., the chiluq is whether the gathering is l'sheim Shamayim. To try to get back to an earlier point in this thread: one doesn't need to be a skilled sailor of yam shel haTalmud to be a y'rei Shamayim. Thanks. <br>
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Gut Voch and all the best from<br>
--Michael Poppers via RIM pager<br>
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