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size=2>From: Richard Wolberg cantorwolberg@cox.net></FONT></DIV>
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size=2>>, the father is not upset with<BR>his daughter -- he is pleased
and delighted with her wit and chachma!"<[--TK]<BR><BR>>>Sorry, but
that doesn't cut it! A parent child relationship should be <BR>one of
respect and to allow a child that type of behavior is a poor parental
<BR>example. That's the same "cute" mentality of allowing a child to call
the <BR>parent by the first name which is against halacha.<BR><BR>I think
the p'shat that says she acted brazenly toward her father is <BR>no
different from the fact that the Torah portrays everyone as they are and
with <BR>all their foibles....<BR><BR>....Perhaps chutzpah may be
praiseworthy in certain select, limited <BR>situations, but disrespect of
parents is hardly praiseworthy even if meant in jest. Maaris ayin
<BR>overrules chutzpah.<<<BR><BR>>>>></FONT></DIV>
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size=2>It is completely impossible to put Miriam's behavior in the same category
as calling parents by their first names. Nor is Amram's acceding to her
superior wisdom/nevuah in this case -- and re-marrying Yocheved -- remotely
similar to the case of an indulgent father who gives in to his kids' whining and
spoils them with toys and presents. If she was called Puah because of her
"brazenness" it is in no way meant to say that Puah is a "bad" name meant to
denigrate her. The flow of the pesukim and of the meforshim is
unmistakable -- that what she did was praiseworthy in this
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<DIV>One thinks of the medrash about Hashem Himself laughing and saying
"Nitzchuni banai" about -- I don't remember what. But He wasn't angry when
His children "bested" Him in an argument, He was pleased. There is
unacceptable and acceptable chutzpa. You really do have to look at the
whole picture.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
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