<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 28, 2007 4:09 AM, Shoshana L. Boublil <<a href="mailto:toramada@bezeqint.net">toramada@bezeqint.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">> Michael Makovi wrote:<br>><br>>> I read somewhere (I forget where) that the Sepharadim got their practice<br>>> from the Geonim - just look at the Rif and the Rambam. Whereas the<br>
>> Ashkenazim got their practice from Israel through Italy. Where did you<br>>> see<br>>> this claim? Because I forgot where I saw it (but it's a nice thing to say<br>>> to<br>>> Sepharadim in Israel when they claim to be minhag Eretz Yisrael :)
<br><br></div>When Sephardim in Israel say that they are following Minhag Eretz Yisrael,<br>they are NOT referring to the G'mara.<br><br>They are referring to MARAN, R' Yosef Karo and his psika in Eretz Yisrael.<br>
He is considered by many Sephardim to be THE poseik in Eretz Yisrael.<br><font color="#888888"><br>Shoshana L. Boublil</font></blockquote><div><br>I posted this irony MANY years ago on Avodah.<br>EY morhped from minhag EY to minhag Harif etc. sometimes after 1100 CE or so.
<br>The process might have begun earlier.<br>There is a Gaonic work delineating about 80 differences in Minhag between Bavel and EY<br>circa 800-900.<br><br>Rema's hakdamah to the Mappah apparnetly refeernces either this work or this concept because he notes that the Disparaity between East and West is VERY old.
<br><br>Popular Belief, Convntional Widsom orr Myth: All halachah and Minhag devolves from Bavli <br>Reality: This was never 100% true but was mostly true for Rif/Rambam. Ashknazim never adhered to this principle - albeit Rashi did so more than did Tosafos.
<br><br>I will start a new thread BEH on this. <br></div></div><br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br><a href="mailto:RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com">RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com</a><br>see: <a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">
http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a>