<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 20, 2007 5:34 PM, Zev Sero <<a href="mailto:zev@sero.name">zev@sero.name</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">Richard Wolpoe wrote:<br>> Given: the Torah uses the image of "vo'eso eschem al kanfei nesharim..."<br>> Translation: I will lift you up by the wings of eagles and bring you to<br>
> me...<br><br></div>Vo'eso is past tense. "I carried you on eagles' [or griffon vultures']<br>wings, and brought you to Me." It's about Yetzias Mitzrayim, not about<br>the future redemption.
</blockquote><div><br>good catch <br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> And Yetzias Mitzrayim did not involve air travel
<br>of any sort, avionic or avian, natural or miraculous. Thus the "kanfei<br>nesharim" *must* be understood metaphorically, as Rashi does</blockquote><div><br>Indeed, we can see that a difficulty in taking a phrase literalyl can caus us to look at it metaphoricall which is my point
<br><br>My follow up question - do we punt to Metaphor allegory ONLY when we MSUT or even if it simply makes a lot more sense? IOW, how far must we be pushed to abandon a literal read? <br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
-<br>> Questions:<br>> 7. Are we actually progressing in seeing the Torah as more rational ?<br><div class="Ih2E3d">> [think of Rav Sa'adyah Gaon!]<br><br></div>Ironically, it's RSG who associates this passuk with kibbutz galiyot
<br>rather than the Mashiach himself (<a href="http://www.aharit.com/C-08.html" target="_blank">http://www.aharit.com/C-08.html</a>) </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><font color="#888888"><br>--<br>Zev Sero </font></blockquote></div><br>My point was that R. S. Gaon posits that progressively over time more mitzvos will be unerstood rationaly [sichliyos] unil they all will be self-evident
<br><br>The question: likewise - can parhsanus be improved over time with a greater understanding of technology etc.?<br><br><br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br><a href="mailto:RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com">RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com
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