<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/23/07, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:RallisW@aol.com">RallisW@aol.com</a></b> <<a href="mailto:RallisW@aol.com">RallisW@aol.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div>According to Rav Hamburger, one acts in one of two ways in regard to making
Birchos Hatoroh:</div>
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<div>1) If one learns <u>before</u> davenen (Yekkish term - orenen) one recites
Birchos Hatoroh followed by Y'vorechecho [Mikro], & Aylu Devorim [Mishnoh
& Gemoro]....</div>
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<div>2) If one davens/orens before learning then one recites Birchos
Hatoroh before the Parshas Hatomid [Mikro], then Ayso Mekomon [Mishnoh], and
Rabi Yishmoel [Sifroh]. </div>
<div>[Just an aside why don't most recite Ayso Mekomon? Is it only a matter of
time?] </div></font></div></blockquote><div><br>Tangentially:<br><ol><li>I have a time-based compromise for Ezehu mekoman. When I am running late I say 1 mishnah per day and the last 2 on Sahbbos completing the perek at least once a week instead of daily
</li><li> I do no know why in Yehsivos we omitted pashas hatamid. Most shuls that cut karboanos short STILL say Parsahs hatamid</li><li>Why don't Ashknezim say Parshas hatimd at Minhah as do Sephardim? IOW I get why Ashkenazim omit the ketores but why omit the Tamid?
<br clear="all"></li></ol></div></div><br>-- <br>Kol Tuv / Best Regards,<br><a href="mailto:RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com">RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com</a><br>Please Visit: <br><a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/
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