<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/15/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Elliott Shevin</b> <<a href="mailto:eshevin@hotmail.com">eshevin@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div>R. Richard Wolpoe writes:<br>> <br>> 3) (Google translation: From the evening of the 59th Day after Tekufas Tishrei,<span class="q"><br>> > either on the 5th Or 6 December fall until Pesach is here, "Tal Umattar"
<br>> > turned on.)<br></span><span class="q">> > We all know that in Chu"l you start saying v'sein tal umattar on the 4th<br>> > or 5th of December. Why does this siddur say the 5th or 6th?<br>
> ><br> <br></span>R. Michael Poppers replies:<br>> <br>> It means the EVE [i.e ma'ariv] before the 5th of 6th.<br>> <br><br>Just to reconcile the note with R. Poppers' comment: is it possible the <br>
note is found in Shacharis? Thus no problem--tal umattar would have been <br>said starting the previous night, the 4th or 5th. </div></blockquote>
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<div>Good point!</div>
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<div>It is indeed found in shacharis. It's a small siddur, so while it has all of davening (at least for weekdays - I don't think it has shabbos), it doesn't repeat Shmoneh Esrei 3 times.</div><br>Thanks!</div>
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<div>Michael</div>