I have heard this story and I LOVE this story<br>I have been searching an answer to this question:<br>What it is earliest source for this story?<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------<br>Some remarks, Recall my earlier posts re:
<br><ul><li>Moshe who prayed for Israel before rebuking them at the Ma'aseh ho'egel </li><li>and Shumel who prayed for Sha'ul before rebuking him re: Amaleik.</li></ul><div style="text-align: center;">Discernment:
<br></div>If one feels bad about having to do the kana'us [or the tochachaha], yet nevertheless one still feels it is the right thing to do or a necessary but regretable "evil", then it is probably well--intentioned.
<br>But; if one ENJOYS kana'us [or tochachah] then it is probably not lishmah.<br><br>Re: Tochacha that is Rav S. Schwab's point re: "lechishsan lechichas nachash." It is a joyless bite.<br>I would guess he would have felt the same about Kana'us,, too.!
<br><br>[Kana'us - Zealotry; Tochechah - Rebuke]<br><br>Kesiva vaChasima Tova<br>Best Wishes for 5768,<br><a href="mailto:RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com">RabbiRichWolpoe@Gmail.com</a><br>Please Visit: <br><a href="http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/">
http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/</a><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/21/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Yitzhak Grossman</b> <<a href="mailto:celejar+ynet@gmail.com">celejar+ynet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:16:40 -0700 RDE wrote:<br><br>> The Shomer Emunim Rebbe told me that according to Derech Mitzvosecha
<br>> that one can only be a kanoi if it doesn't provide pleasure or excitement.<br><br>There's a story I love about a certain Rav [0], famous as a vehement<br>zealot, who once reprimanded someone for excessive zealotry. When
<br>asked, "But you, too, are known as a great zealot?", he responded with<br>a parable: A housewife imports a cat to rid her house of mice; both<br>the woman and the cat have the same goal of eliminating the vermin, but
<br>the woman would ideally prefer that there be no infestation in<br>the first place, while the cat is delighted to have rodents to chase.<br>That's the distinction between us, said the Rav; in my ideal world<br>there would be no profanation of the glory of Heaven, while you live
<br>for the joy of battle ...<br><br>I'm not sure how accurate my rendition of the anecdote is, but there's a<br>greater truth here even if the details are incorrect. [It should go<br>without saying, but for the record, I *in no way* mean by that to
<br>sanction the use of falsehoods in the service of truth.]<br><br>[0] I'm not sure of the identity of the protagonist, but I think he was<br>a prominent Hassidic figure.<br><br>Yitzhak<br>--<br>Bein Din Ledin - <a href="http://bdl.freehostia.com">
bdl.freehostia.com</a><br>An advanced discussion of Hoshen Mishpat<br></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><br>