<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/19/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Dov Kay</b> <<a href="mailto:dov_kay@hotmail.co.uk">dov_kay@hotmail.co.uk</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<<>From the lengthy footnotes, it seems that the problem is that having<br>kavana for<br>the mitzva is a form of thinking divrei Torah.>><br><br>This argument is problematic, because it would mean that according to the
<br>Vilna Gaon, that hirhurei Torah are forbidden before birchos haTorah, it<br>would be forbidden to do any mitzvas aseh before birchos haTorah, which is a<br>problem for those who put on their tallis/tefillin before saying b'rochos,
<br>which is the common custom.<br><br>I think that shofar question is dependent on the chakira (discussed in R.<br>Frank's Mikro'ei Kodesh) whether shome'a k'oneh works by putting the shome'a<br>in the same position as the shatz/tokeah (ie as if the shome'a had said the
<br>words), or merely by transferring the kiyum mitzva created by the<br>amira/tekiah to the shome'a.<br><br>Kol tuv<br>Dov Kay<br><br></blockquote></div><br>I'm not 100% sure but I would suspect that the GRA would say to say Birkas Hatorah ASAP in the morning after Netillas Yadayim etc. A lot of siddurim these days have
<br>Yadayim<br>Asher Yatzar<br>E.lopkai Hnesham<br>& Birkkas Hatorah<br>as the first thing in the morning. I figure it is al pi the GRA<br><br>Our minhag probably follows the Rema<br><br>FWIW Artscroll has Kadesh and V'haya ki Yeviacah BEFORE birchas Hatorah and I cannot imagine WHOM they are following on that one! I have been meaning to write them on this matter myself
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